What happened to the Smashing Pumpkins?

[Iceman]

What ever happened to the band the Smashing Pumpkins?

I forgot all about them and actually used to like them a bit. I have their double CD from a long time ago "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" and think their "Siamese Twins" CD if that's the name of it was pretty good. Just heard a song by them on Alias (which I never watch) and heard their song in the back ground. Anybody know what happened to them and what their last CD was and if it was any good?

[Ivan Putski]

i stopped smashing pumpkins after i hit shufflebutt that one time years ago. it was really hard to get pumpkins yearround anyway so i didn't get a lot of practice.

[Amber]

I don't know the details, but I guess they split up or took a break or something. I know singer Billy Corgan did some solo stuff. I could have swore that I heard him say in an interview not too awful long ago that they were going to or he wanted to do another album together. I'm not really sure.

I did like Smashing Pumpkins quite a lot until I heard that Billy Corgan was sleeping with Courtney Love while she was still married to Kurt Cobain, lead singer of the band Nirvana. I have all the respect for Kurt in the world and though popular belief may be that he committed suicide, I don't believe it. www.justiceforkurt.com Kurt wanted a divorce and I'm sure that is one of the major reasons for it. If you look at the evidence, it points to murder and it seems to me and many others that Courtney had something to do with it. So, in my opinion Billy Corgan is indirectly linked to Kurt's death and it just makes me sick to think about how Courtney could do something like that to such an incredible person.

[Iceman]

ivanputski said:

i stopped smashing pumpkins after i hit shufflebutt that one time years ago. it was really hard to get pumpkins yearround anyway so i didn't get a lot of practice.

That's not a good excuse to stop doing it, sounds like you were pretty good at tossing pumkins (and salad) in your day. So the question is, do you still have the skills?

[Iceman]

amber said:

I don't know the details, but I guess they split up or took a break or something. I know singer Billy Corgan did some solo stuff. I could have swore that I heard him say in an interview not too awful long ago that they were going to or he wanted to do another album together. I'm not really sure.

I did like Smashing Pumpkins quite a lot until I heard that Billy Corgan was sleeping with Courtney Love while she was still married to Kurt Cobain, lead singer of the band Nirvana. I have all the respect for Kurt in the world and though popular belief may be that he committed suicide, I don't believe it. www.justiceforkurt.com Kurt wanted a divorce and I'm sure that is one of the major reasons for it. If you look at the evidence, it points to murder and it seems to me and many others that Courtney had something to do with it. So, in my opinion Billy Corgan is indirectly linked to Kurt's death and it just makes me sick to think about how Courtney could do something like that to such an incredible person.

Hmm, so you think Billy had a Solo album or 2 Amber. You don't know if they were any good though? Surprised we don't hear anything from anybody in that band anymore.

Yeah, it sure has been a while since they did anything together, maybe they simply did break up but forgot to tell people?

I didn't know or hear Billy slept with Courtney while she was married to Kurt. You really think this happened Amber? Kinda like Lita and Edge maybe? Still isn't right when your still married to somebody else. They should of got a divorce first.

I didn't know people thought Kurt may have been murdered by Courtney. She is trash so I wouldn't put anything past her, and could even picture her being wasted at a party and hooking up with who ever (example: Billy Corgan, Joe Ski). I thought Kurt overdosed on drugs since he had a history of abusing them or committed suicide. Either way it's ashame. Maybe suicide was the only way to get away from Courtney though I think, unfortunately.

[Amber]

admin said:

I didn't know or hear Billy slept with Courtney while she was married to Kurt. You really think this happened Amber? Kinda like Lita and Edge maybe? Still isn't right when your still married to somebody else. They should of got a divorce first.

Courtney said it happened. What ticks me off the most about that she bragged about it. At least Edge and Lita admitted doing wrong when the WWE wasn't using the situation as a storyline. But the fact that it's possible somebody died partly because of this, is what I don't like.

[Amber]

admin said:

I didn't know people thought Kurt may have been murdered by Courtney. She is trash so I wouldn't put anything past her, and could even picture her being wasted at a party and hooking up with who ever (example: Billy Corgan, Joe Ski). I thought Kurt overdosed on drugs since he had a history of abusing them or committed suicide. Either way it's ashame. Maybe suicide was the only way to get away from Courtney though I think, unfortunately.

If you want a few of the reasons I think he didn't do it, you should look at this.
www.justiceforkurt.com/help/flyers/flyer.shtml
The main website definitely goes into greater detail. You can view evidence and police reports and whatnot, but if you want the whole of it summed up, there it is.

[Iceman]

amber said:

admin said:

I didn't know people thought Kurt may have been murdered by Courtney. She is trash so I wouldn't put anything past her, and could even picture her being wasted at a party and hooking up with who ever (example: Billy Corgan, Joe Ski). I thought Kurt overdosed on drugs since he had a history of abusing them or committed suicide. Either way it's ashame. Maybe suicide was the only way to get away from Courtney though I think, unfortunately.

If you want a few of the reasons I think he didn't do it, you should look at this.
www.justiceforkurt.com/help/flyers/flyer.shtml
The main website definitely goes into greater detail. You can view evidence and police reports and whatnot, but if you want the whole of it summed up, there it is.

Hmm...interesting Amber. It does sure look a little shady after reading that. No finger prints on the gun or pen? That's really weird and sounds like a cover up. I think he did take too much Herion, possibly overdosed, then passed out, Courtney saw this or knew he would, then maybe shot him.

What do you think happend Amber (or if anybody else read it too)?

[Amber]

I think the killer was somebody close to Kurt. Most likely Courtney. I believe she had a major hand in it whether or not it was actually her.

From all accounts except that of Courtney's, Cobain was not suicidal. He was obviously a heroin addict, but at the time he was actually clean. He had just left rehab. Granted he did up and leave all of the sudden, but with no indication of suicide. Then he went missing. There is evidence that he was kept from using his car and his credit cards in the last days prior to his death. I think he might have actually left rehab because he knew something was up. I don't think his death was any accident.

Experts say an addict, and in Kurt's case, a former addict, would never use that much heroin, because they would have known better.

What I think happened is that somebody trapped Kurt, injected him with the heroin, and shot him. The heroin would have been to make him appear to be out of it when he shot himself, though I think that is what actually killed him. I don't see how that much couldn't.

I think they said that amount would have only taken a few seconds to kill him. Oddly enough the drug paraphernalia had been neatly placed back in its box and his sleeves had been rolled back down. He wouldn't have had time for that and even if by some freak chance he had time, which he didn't, why would he have bothered if he was trying to kill himself? He wouldn't. It wouldn't have mattered.

I think it was definitely covered up. The police did a bad job of investigating. Within hours they had ruled it as a suicide before even looking at all the evidence. That's what at the time it appeared to be, so that's what they went with. Funny enough too, the man that did Cobain's autopsy was a friend of Courtney's. It's just too sketchy for there not to have been foul play involved and it was all at the expense of Kurt.

[Iceman]

I hear ya Amber, it really sounds like somebody killed Kurt, and my guess still being Courtney "Double Wide" Love. Cann't believe the Police did such a bad and quick job investigating it. Even on an "average" person they would of took more time, let alone a "star" so you think they would take extra time. How did the government or police force let this happen? I don't get it.

[Amber]

Me either. There was a bit of a backlash. Countless letters have been sent to the Seattle Police Department, but they have refused to reopen the investigation. Probably because they don't want the bad publicity of admitting their mistake the first time around. Which is unfair.

[simoneaton]

They split up years ago

Billy Corgan formed a band called Zwan that sucked arse and they thankfully split up quickly and he is now doing solo stuff

Auf De Mar is now also doing solo stuff she eother did a stint as bassist for Hole before or after Pumpkins split up

James Iha joined A Perfect Circle (A super group contains James Maynard Kennan of Too, Jordie White ex-Marilyn Manson, Josh Fresse or what ever his last name is of The Vandels) He joined them after the original guitarist left to join Zwan

[Iceman]

Thanks for the heads up Simon. So Billy's Zwan group, then later solo music doesn't sound good eh. That's probably why I haven't heard anything from him since the Pumpkins then, lol.

Do you know why the Smashing Pumpkins broke up in the first place? Seems like they all still wanted to do music since they went with other groups.

Never heard of Perfect Circle, maybe I'll have to try and check them out since you recommend them.

[simoneaton]

They split because to many big egos in such a small place doesnt make a good working enviorment lol

And yeah you should check out A Perfect Circle espeicaly if your a Tool fan

[Iceman]

Lol, yeah I figured they all must of thought they were better than each other, thus egos clashing.