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Post by Iceman on Jan 27, 2005 0:49:35 GMT -5
I am sick of people saying, "Stone Cold is the baddest Sob", "he's crazy and was so original, he was such a bad mother, he broke into wrestling with attitude". This is the same guy who only has 4 moves, punch, kick, middle finger, and Coors Light, lol. Give me a break.
Wrong, lol, hello, "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner already did this before Stone Cold did and on a higher level. Nobody could touch Big Poppa Pump or get in his way. Stone Cold didn't prove or do anything original, he copied the "Big Booty Daddy". What did you like seeing more? Midjah or Stone Cold's Vest? Hmmm tough choice there. Watch Big Poppa Pump talk trash with his attitude while he puts you in his "Steiner Recliner". Now he's one of a kind and original, you never knew what he was gonna do next, and the only guy that stepped in his way and ever had a chance was the "Cat".
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Post by Tommy Dreamer on Jan 31, 2005 14:13:55 GMT -5
I am sick of people saying, "Stone Cold is the baddest Sob", "he's crazy and was so original, he was such a bad mother, he broke into wrestling with attitude". This is the same guy who only has 4 moves, punch, kick, middle finger, and Coors Light, lol. Give me a break. Wrong, lol, hello, "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner already did this before Stone Cold did and on a higher level. Nobody could touch Big Poppa Pump or get in his way. Stone Cold didn't prove or do anything original, he copied the "Big Booty Daddy". What did you like seeing more? Midjah or Stone Cold's Vest? Hmmm tough choice there. Watch Big Poppa Pump talk trash with his attitude while he puts you in his "Steiner Recliner". Now he's one of a kind and original, you never knew what he was gonna do next, and the only guy that stepped in his way and ever had a chance was the "Cat". Sorry iceman have to disagree bro, yeah Austin was how you described him but he was only playing a character Steiner lived his life like that bullying and intimidating peeps. People could care about Austin and get involved in his match. Even was Steiner was face he was still a piece of crap that fans found difficult to get behind. Austin had amazing matches with Taker,Foley,Kane,HHH,HBK,Angle,Rikishi,Rock and Vince. Name me some classic Poppa Pump era matches i can think of prob 2 maybe 3 Nash,Goldberg and perhaps Booker T. |
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Post by Levittown Slugger on Feb 1, 2005 0:10:40 GMT -5
Sorry iceman have to disagree bro, yeah Austin was how you described him but he was only playing a character Steiner lived his life like that bullying and intimidating peeps. People could care about Austin and get involved in his match. Even was Steiner was face he was still a piece of crap that fans found difficult to get behind. Austin had amazing matches with Taker,Foley,Kane,HHH,HBK,Angle,Rikishi,Rock and Vince. Name me some classic Poppa Pump era matches i can think of prob 2 maybe 3 Nash,Goldberg and perhaps Booker T. stone cold could never be what steiner was. like iceman said, he had 4 moves, how "amazing" were all of his matches, zzzzz. steiner at least had 4 suplexes, come on now. |
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Post by Iceman on Feb 1, 2005 1:53:58 GMT -5
Big Poppa Pump is your hookup, holla if ya hear me. He got all the freaks too, that's how he became the "Big Booty Daddy". He was so much stronger than Stone Cold too, so many power moves, explosive. Not like that "Dirty Diamond Cutter" Stone Cold copied from Diamond Dallas Page. Anybody that copys DDP gets cut in my book. Steiner probably drank Malt Liquor, like "Crazy Horse" or "Mickeys", while Stone Cold drinks "Girls Light", lol, come on now.
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Post by Tommy Dreamer on Feb 1, 2005 11:10:55 GMT -5
[how "amazing" were all of his matches, zzzzz.]
Steve Austin competed in some of WWE's best matches of all time. He had classics like:
Wrestlemania 13 vs Bret Hart
Wrestlemania 14 vs Shawn Michaels
Unforgiven'98 + Over the edge'98 vs Mick Foley
Summerslam'98 vs Undertaker
Wrestlemania 15,17+19 vs Rock
Plus had great matches vs HHH,Kane,X-Pac,Vader amongst others
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Post by Tommy Dreamer on Feb 1, 2005 11:12:47 GMT -5
Big Poppa Pump is your hookup, holla if ya hear me. He got all the freaks too, that's how he became the "Big Booty Daddy". He was so much stronger than Stone Cold too, so many power moves, explosive. Not like that "Dirty Diamond Cutter" Stone Cold copied from Diamond Dallas Page. Anybody that copys DDP gets cut in my book. Steiner probably drank Malt Liquor, like "Crazy Horse" or "Mickeys", while Stone Cold drinks "Girls Light", lol, come on now. I don't see it matters what you drink? Sandman was always drunk during his ECW time and he was a below average wrestler. In my opinion the only decent thing Scott Steiner had was the lovely Midajah |
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Post by Slick Willy on Feb 7, 2005 15:13:52 GMT -5
Big Poppa Pump was the man, he talked the talk and ran the walk. He couldn't be stopped, just like junk yard willie. Stiener and Bagwell were great together. It's not Stieners fault the WWF couldn't get decent writer's. And how many times are you going to have the same stone cold matches. We all knew what was going to happen in the end. His matches were the one's you would go take a piss during, or maybe eat some wings. Stone cold's mathces and gimick were stone cold boring.
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Post by Iceman on Feb 7, 2005 20:40:33 GMT -5
Big Poppa Pump was the man, he talked the talk and ran the walk. He couldn't be stopped, just like junk yard willie. Stiener and Bagwell were great together. It's not Stieners fault the WWF couldn't get decent writer's. And how many times are you going to have the same stone cold matches. We all knew what was going to happen in the end. His matches were the one's you would go take a piss during, or maybe eat some wings. Stone cold's mathces and gimick were stone cold boring. Nicely said Junk Yard Willie, I agree with you. |
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Post by hbk on Mar 7, 2005 4:55:52 GMT -5
Well i can't argue about this situation cause I didn't know anything about Scott Stenier until he came to WWE. So whether he is better than Stone Cold after all he has done in his prime in WCW etc i don't know but then if that's the case, then the writers didn't do a good job for Stenier in WWE cause to me, he just seemed so pumped up on steroids etc that he couldn't wrestle at all and the storylines he was given were pretty lame even the Triple H feud was pathetic i think.
But Stone Cold, i think he is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time and definitely entertaining and the feuds and matches he has had have been great. But of course, i would porbably would say that since i am a huge WWE Fan.
So i'm not really one to judge who is better than who
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Post by Slick Willy on Mar 7, 2005 16:13:39 GMT -5
Sorry gentlemen, but anyone who thinks stone cold is better than "the Big Bad Booty Daddy" is wrong. I have friends in the business, and they will tell you the same as I do, Stone Cold was nothing but a decent actor. Stiener was an actual wrestler before he was in WWF, WCW,ECW, and the lame WWE. if you were to give Stiener the same story line that Stone Cold or HHH had or has it would be 100X better and more believable. Like I said it's not Stieners fualt the writers don't give him more props, and even if they tried Vince McMann would never let it happen. Vince is still pissed at all the wrestler that went over to WCW. That's why the majority of them don't get the great matches. And as far as the Barry Bonds, I mean steroids go, almost all of the guys in wrestling are on them or have used them. you can go out and wrestle every other night, and then travel in between and still have time to work out. Your body needs time to heal. Just working out takes time for your muscles to heal properly. So as far as the steroids, they all do them, some just know how to train better to get a better build. Maybe Stone cold should learn how to diet better and eat properly. And HHH should try to cut down on the Test. and Sus. and get something to trim up a little.
If you stone cold lovers want to try and respond to this go ahead and I will shut you down once again.
Slick Willy out, call me if you need some hub caps (I know a few of you know about that)
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Post by bruiser on Mar 7, 2005 19:08:55 GMT -5
I can answer it simply:
Look who was the biggest star in wrestling in the 90's and which was one of the main players for the 2nd string
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Post by Iceman on Mar 7, 2005 21:18:33 GMT -5
Slick Willy hits it right on the nose like Ric Flair. Steiner could of been Stone Cold's character and so much better, he did all that in WCW and was the Heavyweight Champion for a while fighting against real Wrestlers for his belt like Goldberg and Macho Man. Lol, Stone Cold is a miniature "Big Poppa Pump". Big Poppa Pump was the real hook up.
P.S. I didn't even see when Big Poppa Pump was in the WWE, that was after the merger? If it was I didn't watch much Wrestling after WCW went down. Vince personally hated all WCW Wrestlers and wanted to make them weak to say WWE had the best Wrestlers, see now, lol. Where are the WCW stars now? None of them are in the WWE. Steiner going to WWE and his character there doesn't count.
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Post by bruiser on Mar 8, 2005 7:36:56 GMT -5
I was jakked when I heard Steiner would be coming to WWE but he was so slow and lumbering he basically punched and suplexed his way through matches and was part of the most boring main-events ever. He never impressed me when he first came to WWF with his brother Rick and he was even worse this time.
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Post by Slick Willy on Mar 8, 2005 21:45:04 GMT -5
Well Bruiser you backed up our point, and made Stone cold look even worse. You say all Stiener did was punch and suplex his way through matches? Isn't that all Stone cold crap did, and he didn't even do it as well. Plus you must be a little younger and not remember the Stieners of the past. They were as bad as they came in and out of the ring (real life is what I'm talking about). They were not posers like Stone Cold who backed down from people like Goldberg. It was nice how Stone cold talked all that trash, but then shut up when Goldberg challenged him on the air when he was on Howard Stern. He must have felt pretty tough when the largest audience in the world heard him try to duck around a real match.
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Post by Iceman on Mar 8, 2005 23:13:19 GMT -5
Stone Cold had only 4 moves remember: punch, kick, middle finger, and drinking Coors Light. Big Poppa Pump has 4 or 5 variations of his suplex's for example and his finishing move the "Steiner Recliner" is why better the Stone Cold's "Diamond Cutter".
Watch Steiner in WCW around 1999-2001 you'll finally realize what were all talking about. When he was "Big Poppa Pump". Lol, funny thing imagine how funny it would of been to see Bret Hart a so called great Wrestler get totally destroyed by the "Big Booty Daddy", that would of been great. Actually Jim the "Anvil" Neidhart was a better and tougher Wrestler even than Bret and could beat him in a match.
I didn't know Goldberg called out Stone Cold, that's funny that the "Mini Goldberg", Stone Cold backed down when somebody finally called out his bluff all these years of being tough which was just based on Stone Cold's loud mouth and drinking of Coors Cutter.
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